cbrogden
The frame size doesn't really corellate to a production size as it is sized around my physical build, and about two hours at the LBS on their fit cycle, it measures 620mm center to top of the seat tube, all other dimensions will vary based on what measurements Carl has you take. The HT is pretty long and I opted for less BB drop to accomodate 180mm crank arms. For the fitting we started by setting up the fit bike to my existing bike, a 58.5 C-C Steel Ibis Sonoma, which turns out was also built by Carl, though I didn't know that at the time I purchased the Ibis. The fit bike was then adjusted up or down from there. The tubing Carl picked for several reasons some being, my size, my riding style, the roads I primarily ride on, and what I wanted to change in my existing bike. He'll do the same for you in Steel. It's a process, and you will get drawings to approve, in my case three revisions were made due to the availability of the HT at the last minute to allow for a tapered fork.
I know your first post indicated you didn't want to be on a wait list, it's worth it to wait a few months and have the bike built and have the frame fit to you, especially for larger riders.
Also, if you have the chance, read Robert Penn's book "It's All About The Bike"
I would highly recommend giving Carl a call.
