OT, F' Florida.

  1. Danboo

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    Well, cripes, I am sure you know what I feel "deep" inside.
    I do know that you have spouted in about 5 posts that the facts are not in,
    it is not about race, etc., etc.
    So when the facts are showing that the person who acually did the investigation wanted to prosecute, you resort to be an ass as usual.
    You were wrong, flat out, go back to huntin varmints for dinner with your guns.

    Posted 1 year ago
  2. rnddude

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    This just in...
    Danboo labeled a "right-winger", other forumites scratch heads and say "whaaaat?"
    Can a Ron Paul endorsement be expected?

    "To be free and to live a free life - that is the most beautiful thing there is."
    Miguel Indurain
    Posted 1 year ago
  3. Yo Mike

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    I believe the word we are looking for here is 'pissant'

    More head scratching to follow, and a Ron Paul endorsement is likely, as long as Sarah Palin is not nominated at a brokered convention....in Florida.

    Posted 1 year ago
  4. Danboo

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    No Ron Paul for me.
    You talk racist nutjobs, he is the poster boy.
    Read his "newsletters" in the nineties.

    Posted 1 year ago
  5. rnddude

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    But Danny, you're a "right-winger" now, correct????

    Posted 1 year ago
  6. Serotta94

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    @rnddude, pretty sure cripes was saying Dan has an agenda against the right wing NOT that he is right wing.

    Posted 1 year ago
  7. rnddude

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    ^^^Oh, you're right....ever mind!

    Posted 1 year ago
  8. Tortue Volante

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    Moe, I've lived most of my life in Oakland, CA. I know that bad people come in all colors of the rainbow. The point here was that Mr. Zimmerman only seemed to notice the darker hues, as evidenced by his 911 logs.

    I also know that racists sometimes have a friend or two of whatever color it is they otherwise hate. I've seen it in my own family. So the fact that he had a black neighbor friend who spoke up for him doesn't necessarily get him off the hook.

    I certainly would rather this wasn't about race, but so far it has a lot of the tell-tale markings.

    Posted 1 year ago
  9. watermoccasin

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    Winner! --> "I also know that racists sometimes have a friend or two of whatever color it is they otherwise hate. I've seen it in my own family. So the fact that he had a black neighbor friend who spoke up for him doesn't necessarily get him off the hook."

    For the past 20 years part of my sales territory is Mississippi-- the attitudes of some there are shocking, and when I raise my eyebrows or say something they back off a bit. It's almost like they are testing me to see if I'm part of the club. Racists are alive and well, and it's not just in Mississippi, as are stereotyping and profiling. I wish we could all just grow up... or maybe, better yet, start acting like 2 year olds who don't really care about the amount of melanin we have.

    Posted 1 year ago
  10. Keith RIchards

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    He's got a black friend, he CAN'T be racist.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.
    Posted 1 year ago
  11. Master50

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    I grew up in Calgary and I never even saw a black person for years and I never had black friends until I moved to Toronto and eventually Montreal. In Montreal I made a lot of friends both black and white and I can say with a lot of confidence that most of the people I knew growing up of any shade were racist. I am not talking about hate them and burn them racism but ignorance and set ideas. My grandmother was a caring person and I think she knew maybe 1/2 dozen black people in her entire life but the things she said about them clearly indicated a bias and not a nice one. My mom was in love with a black man and she would not marry him because of my grandmother. I loved the guy and I would have called him dad but that was just the way it was. I cannot think of any hatred in the hearts of most of these people just that they based their opinions based on stereo types and the word of other ignorant people.
    We tend to see the people that look like us as the same kind of people and people that look different as something suspicious. This case in Florida is about racism whether or not zimmerman is conscious of his prejudice. He saw a black kid and everything he saw after just reinforced his opinion of the situation.

    Posted 1 year ago
  12. Honus

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    I love Danboo's posts! Always predictable diatribe from the intellectually "challenged". No matter the subject, I can predict his position/stance with absolute certainty. But it's always a good thing. His drivel always stirs the pot and brings-out some seriously intellectual responses from both his detractors and supporters on this site.

    While I can't imagine that Rush Limbaugh believes any of his own spewed crapola (I'd even bet he voted for Hillary whenever given the chance - Limbaugh that is), I'm betting that Danny Boy is following his lead. He can't possibly "think" like the person he esposes to be. He ain't buyin' any of the simpleton crap he esposes and foists upon us. He's just havin' a little fun at our expense.

    Hava a happy day, Danny Boy ...

    I ride alone in bad company ...
    Posted 1 year ago
  13. Danboo

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    Come on Honus, I believe at LEAST half of what I post here.
    You can guess which half.

    Posted 1 year ago
  14. Honus

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    Frank? This ain't your time of day, bud.

    Posted 1 year ago
  15. Berzin

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    Let's get to what we DO know-

    Zimmerman was acting as an untrained security guard, and was armed with a concealed weapon.

    He followed a young, black male and called the police with a description of the youth.

    He was told by the dispatcher to back off, yet he continued to pursue someone who was doing nothing wrong.

    He now claims that the youth attacked him, but as we know dead men tell no tales. If he was following the young man and WAS attacked, one could surmise that it was Zimmerman who started the fracas, since he seemed hell-bent on a confrontation after being told to step off.

    So we have a wanna-be Tackleberry looking to be RoboCop against an unarmed black kid who he pursued for no reason. All the kid was doing was walking down the street, but just walking down the street while black is suspicion enough for some people.

    Zimmerman can say anything in his defense because the young man is not around to counter his statements over whether there was an altercation or who started it.

    Regardless of who started it, Zimmerman had no right to pursue and confront an unarmed youth once he called the situation in to law enforcement and was told not to continue pursuing him.

    The other thing is, if Zimmerman was punched in the nose hard enough to knock him to the ground, why didn't he go to the hospital to be treated?

    The funny thing about racism is how people are so casual about it, then hypocritically deny it. I've had conversations with people who say the usual crap about people of my ethnicity, thinking I'll agree with them just because I don't fit THEIR stereotype of what I should be like. In other words, they get comfortable enough to think "well, he's not like the others".

    And don't think this only goes one way. Some of the biggest racists I've ever encountered were people from my own ethnic background who've made comments and took an immediate disliking to me because to them I look and talk like "a white boy". I get this crap all the time.

    Posted 1 year ago
  16. Danboo

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    @Honus,
    I was half serious in my reply to your inane comment about my posts and views here.
    If you think that my view that a John Wayne wannabe cop like George Zimmerman shooting and killing and
    unarmed kid is "drivel", in your words, that says a lot about you.
    I am Intellectually challenged?
    I guess in the woods of the Puget Sound, it is sort of easy to imagine you are some kind of genius.

    Posted 1 year ago
  17. jacques_anquetil

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    A further case in point to Keith's post above:

    “I'm not racist and some of my friends are from different cultural backgrounds,” [Liam Stacey] told police.

    "Watching on television as Congolese-born footballer Fabrice Muamba had a heart attack and collapsed while playing in the English Premier League, a drunken university student tweeted his mocking reaction. The comment was insensitive but not racist. When others on Twitter hit back, though, Liam Stacey launched into a series of abusive and racially charged responses."

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/uk-students-racially-fuelled-twitter-tirade-lands-him-two-month-jail-term/article2382578/

    Posted 1 year ago
  18. Habanero

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    +1 Keith

    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time."
    Malcolm X
    Posted 1 year ago
  19. carbon gecko

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    A couple years ago in Texas a man called 911. Some kids were breaking into his neighbors place, the neighbor wasn't home. The man said he had a shotgun and was going to stop the kids. He was told not to a number of times. One of the kids starts to run across the lawn with some of his loot. The man shoots him in the back as he runs away. The man is later found innocent.

    Is it anger, hate, or fear. Or a twisted combination of all. These laws are dangerous. They are put forward by angry, aggressive, afraid law makers counting on the support of angry, scared voters. How can it possibly be reasonable to shoot a kid in the back as he runs away from your neighbors empty house with some trinket. How can it be reasonable to say "You shouldn't have to try to back down". If you believe beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is a risk to your well-being you don't need to try to walk away, or defuse the situation. You can pull out your gun a shoot him. The law will protect you.

    I also grew up in Canada. The first black person I ever saw in person was in high school. Do I believe I am racist? Hell no. Have I probably bought into some of the TV shows, media, movies that tell me that I should be afraid of black youth? Probably to some degree. Is it justified? Maybe to some degree in some places. Unfortunately most of the civilization has done the same.

    That changes the entire playing field. Even if you take away the racism, the prejudice, whatever else. If you have a law that says... if you feel afraid, you don't need to try to walk away. You don't need to truly be at risk... all you have to believe is that you may be at risk and you can use lethal force. Not to defend yourself... just to make yourself feel safe. Then add in how biased so many of us are in regards to our comfort zones and our fear. It is legalized manslaughter for the sake of easing our fears. Some of which are racially driven whether we are prepared to admit it or not. That is a form of legalized racism. It is also nuts.

    How can a reasonable society believe that a man should be able to step out his front door and shoot a kid in the back as he is running away with a few hundred dollars worth of stuff... after having been told not to by 911, that police are on the way...

    How can anyone follow a person through a neighborhood, a person who has a right to be there. That in itself is a form of confrontation. Be told not to, the police will deal with it. Then claim... I was afraid or I was attacked. If Trayvon had lived don't you think he could claim he was scared. This odd man was following him around at night. So shouldn't this law allow him to punch the guy in the nose if he feels threatened, then the other guy feels threatened and he's allowed to pull out a gun and shoot the kid. You now have a law where nobody did anything wrong, both parties were in the right, but one of them is shot. How can that be a reasonable law.

    I know the label black is offensive to some but I was always confused as a Canadian... were the kids I knew in high school African Canadians? African North Americans? What about black people who consider their roots in the West Indies and not in Africa?

    Very few of us believe we are racist. Very few of us are truly unaffected by race.

    Posted 1 year ago
  20. Cripesmoe!

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    @Keith, I disagree with your mocking of a black man that spoke on Zimmermans behalf, my point was this man has an insight to him that none of us do...this man probably did himself no favor by speaking positively on behalf of what he saw in Zimmerman as a person, I would say it is an honest conviction, or is it just easier to throw this mans view out in order to support the "racist" agenda?? Also, while not scientific I have known quite a few racist in my lifetime and they made no secret of their hatred and never tried to hide it...they are an easy read and one did not have to speculate on their feelings...

    Posted 1 year ago
  21. carbon gecko

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    Keith,

    I realize that there is still hate crime and that people are still getting away with it. What I said wasn't to detract from that. I was trying to point out that whether we realize it or not there is such a thing as fear crime and that it is racially driven at all levels; committing, prosecuting, punishing. If the fear is racially driven, then a law that allows killing based only on fear is racially biased. Many whites may argue that that fear is learned and justified. That is racist whether they will admit it or not. None of them will have to know the fear that a perfectly well-intentioned black youth or male may now feel walking the streets of this country.

    Posted 1 year ago
  22. longslowdistance

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    "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" explains a lot of behaviors being ridiculed on this thread.
    PS Danboo, FL is well on it's way to getting F'ed, as a lot of it will be underwater in a few decades.

    Posted 1 year ago
  23. rnddude

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    What actually happened in the time frame between the 911 call and the shot(s?) fired is what would make the shooting justifiable or not. All we have is the shooters account, any eyewitness accounts, and the physical evidence. From my perspective I cannot come to a firm conclusion as to his legal culpability based on what has been presented so far.

    Posted 1 year ago
  24. Tortue Volante

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    @ Moe and others:

    Here's the way it works when a racist has a friend of the race he despises: "Oh, but Jim's okay! He's not like the others!"

    That's pretty much it. And why is Jim "okay"? Because he's actually come to know him one-on-one, as a person. All the "others" are the ones he hasn't gotten to know, and has no desire to know because of their color.

    As I said earlier, I've seen it in my own family. Now, is Mr. Zimmerman actually a racist? I don't know, but the evidence to date looks like there's a pretty good chance he is.

    Posted 1 year ago
  25. Orange Crush

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    Ultimately does it matter whether this dick is a racist or not? Would it not be equally troubling if he'd shot a white kid dead in manner that he did?

    There's a bit of a racist in each and every one of us, we're born that way, it's a basic fear of the unknown. How we let those fears and prejudices manifest themselves, that's what sets us apart.

    Dicks like this just should be allowed to walk around with guns. Period.

    The wise man said follow me...and he walked behind.
    Posted 1 year ago

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