New bike incoming

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  1. sappie66

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    Finally got all the parts into the shop. Should be all ready in a week or so.

    A while back I picked up a new-old-stock Ciocc steel frame (Columbus Cromor) with fully chromed fork and stays off Craigslist. Thought I might put together a pseudo-retro-Italian-but-modern-rideable bike. Frame is pretty heavy -- 1920 grams! Well, the slower you go, the cooler-looking the bike has to be.

    Picked up a Campy Veloce groupset online pretty cheap -- picked Veloce because it came in silver, in keeping with the classic theme.

    Had some wheels built up using Mavic Open Sport aluminum rims and 32-hold DT hubs. I was hoping to find some silver hubs but could only find black.

    To complete the look, I picked up some modern but classic-looking contact point bits -- Ritchey Classic bars, stem and seatpost (silver). I also bought a quill-stem adapter, so I would not have to use a quill stem. I will use my Speedplays. Not gonna go toe-clip. That would seriously compromise the rideability for me.

    So all in, about $1700 invested.

    So any quesses on how heavy it will be complete? It is a 52 cm frame. My guess is 22 lbs. I will post pics when I get it.

    Posted 6 months ago

  2. george

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    Early CIocc's are quality frames and nice choice for the biuild. I had the Veloce build on the Prodigy but sold the bike after purchasing the Moots.

    Posted 6 months ago

  3. Orange Crush

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    Nice - I'll be on the lookout for a live sighting during my travails through Vancouver.

    The wise man said follow me...and he walked behind.
    Posted 6 months ago

  4. Keith RIchards

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    21-22lbs is my guess.

    Should ride sweet.

    It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.
    Posted 6 months ago

  5. sappie66

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    Thanks guys. What's cool about this particular Ciocc is that the tubes have spiral fluting. Never seen that before.

    Posted 6 months ago

  6. watermoccasin

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    //What's cool about this particular Ciocc is that the tubes have spiral fluting

    Columbus TSX tubing is my guess.

    Posted 6 months ago

  7. 79pmooney

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    22 lbs sounds close. My old racing bike, '76 was around 20-21 lbs. Had a slight edge with sew-ups and 290 gram rims.

    This bike cries out for a quill stem. (Nitto Pearl if you want the finest. But be aware they are a full cm longer than the "size". A 130 Pearl 13 is 140 center to center. A full 1.5 cm longer than a Cinelli 130.) If you go that way, you will get to experience the joy of changing stem height at a whim. So easy and so no-brainer. I'll probably never own a threadless headset bike again if I can help it. Now a quill with a faceplate could be pretty nice.)

    Ben

    Posted 6 months ago

  8. Inferno7

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    Always love new bike posts ! Congrats!!

    LeMond VO2 max 95, Armstrong 82....doh
    Posted 6 months ago

  9. Yo Mike

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    Sounds like a classy ride. Enjoy, and don't forget to post pics.

    Posted 6 months ago

  10. thinline

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    Well, the slower you go, the cooler-looking the bike has to be.

    LOL!

    Posted 6 months ago

  11. 79pmooney

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    I just exchanged E-mails with Bicycle Classics regarding the Nitto Pearl stems. I learned Nitto measures their stems HB center to perpendicular to the quill centerline. Hence a "130" is actually 136.7 and a "120" is 126.2 measuring HB to quill-stem centerline intersection as is the standard.

    I don't expect my words will sway your thinking regarding stems. And having to pull the tape and lever on one side, then do a tricky threading job to change bars is kinda the pits. But the good quill stems look classy without match and the ease of raising and lowering the bars is a joy. I thought nothing of changing the height for an event or ride, often immediately before setting out. Not a smart move on a threadless if you are rushed and a slightly rattling headset bothers you.

    Ben

    Posted 6 months ago

  12. pmf

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    how does one post pics on this site?

    Posted 6 months ago

  13. Keith RIchards

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    you have to upload them someplace first.

    then it is [img src=(insert you link here)]

    Replace the "[" with the appropriate "<"

    So this...

    https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/21960_1261852999585_6430783_n.jpg

    gets put inside the parenthesis and looks like this:

    Posted 6 months ago

  14. sappie66

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    Thanks Mooney. I was debating to quill or not to quill, but I made my decision and went for the modern-yet-silver adapter-n-stem route. I am now mildly regretting it because you make a good case for them!

    Geez Mooney!!! ;)

    Posted 6 months ago

  15. pmf

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    Is there a place on Velonews to upload them?

    Posted 6 months ago

  16. Keith RIchards

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    No you need to post them someplace...FB, photobucket, flickr, something like that.

    the one I posted was from my FB page.

    Posted 6 months ago

  17. Jah

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    quills do look cool, but I rode a bike with one that I left at the parents not too long ago. forgot how much they move around, thought it was broken at first

    Posted 6 months ago

  18. sappie66

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    You are just too powerful Jah!

    Posted 6 months ago

  19. 79pmooney

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    I get a kick out of your title, though if my life panned out differently 40 years ago, it would be a kick of a different sort, so my apologies to all for whom this isn't funny.

    Incoming bike! Duck!

    I know, sorta sick.

    Ben

    Posted 6 months ago

  20. 79pmooney

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    Jah, that's a curse I'll never have, at least not until I am re-incarnated as Charles Atlas. I rode Cycle Oregon with two "130" stems, a Cinelli 1A and the Pearl and never noticed flex. Never. And I didn't use a gear lower than 42-23 ever. (And we climbed 31,000' over the week.)

    I do get a kick out of the current passion for stiffness and eliminating flex. Old school thought was that if you rode smoothly, a good thing from the physiological point anyway, that most of bike flex was recoverable energy and really didn't hurt very much. Years after my racing days, a certain Sean Kelley won a lot of races in sprints riding the flexiest bike known to man.

    My bikes have been getting stiffer bike by bike. I do appreciate my very stiff new ti fixie because it is a fixie for hills. But my old steel Trek does me just about as well. Just isn't as fast because I have to lug a bike that's 8 pounds heavier with slower tires.

    Ben

    Posted 6 months ago

  21. Keith RIchards

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    Mooney on the bike flex...I was fond of saying, "my gears and chain ain't flexing, what are you talking about?"

    Posted 6 months ago

  22. Jah

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    it was an old one and tig steel, Profile and probably 130. just moved around a lot more than I remembered, not a weightlifter by any stretch of my imagination. not really dangerous, just felt wierd

    old SL bike with a 1" headset and a super spindly steel fork might have something to do with it, too

    Posted 6 months ago

  23. pascal

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    Sappie--I think you and I are on the same wavelength. I picked up a steel Concorde on ebay and built up a retro Italian bike earlier this year. My frame was not new, but had the fluting in the tubes, but on the inside. The tubes are Columbus SPX, and the bike was made in the Ciocc factory (or so I'm told).

    I didn't go with Veloce, although maybe that would have been cool. Instead went with silver Shimano 105, mainly so that my extra wheelset would be compatible. I like that you had a wheelset built up--perhaps some silver rims would make the ride really distinctive.

    I, too, did the stem adapter and got a Ritchey stem and Ritchey Curve bars in silver. I think it looks okay, and it was about the same cost as an old quill. Interestingly, the seatpost is a Nitto, and it's new. I'm told that Nitto still makes parts today, and the seatpost is a really nice one--very refined.

    Speedplays will be on this rig, too, along with some Michelins on the wheels most likely.

    I think the bike will be about the same cost as yours--it really is hard to keep the cost down. I think the only way is to get some well-used parts. etc. And I didn't want to end up with stuff that needs to be replaced soon.

    The weight of this 58cm bike is right around 20.5 lbs. Not bad, considering the excellent ride quality of steel.

    Will try to post a picture...

    Pascal

    Posted 6 months ago

  24. sappie66

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    The bike is pretty much done now, except the inside of the seat tube is very rough so they have to wait for a special reaming tool to come in. That's why the seatpost is so far out for the moment.

    The photo doesn't do it justice. The chrome fork and stays, along with the silver rims, cassette and brand new parts just GLEAM!

    Posted 6 months ago

  25. sappie66

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    Nice Ritchey KR!

    My Breakaway steel says "hi".

    Posted 6 months ago

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