I know this has been brought up before and, at one time, saw a thorough explanation over which hubs are already properly dished for the new body. That said, I have a pair of Mavic Ksyrium SLR's that I want to switch over to DA 9000. Will they work? Also, what about DT 240 hubs on Enve rims?
Shimano 11spd hub compatibility
Yes and no
depends if the freehub requires the use of spacers to mount a cassette, like many mavics. From what I understand, the freehub is 1.8mm wider. yet to see this stuff in the wild. You might be ok with your Ksyriums but not the dt, shimano is up to their old tricks again
Mavics should work, DT won't, but supposedly there's a replacement DT cassette body in the works/close to available. Most wheels are going to need to be re-dished after hub conversion, but Mavics that have used a spacer inboard of the cassette will not.
This is a change that's hard to love. Structurally, it's a negative. More dish is always a bad thing.For disclosure purposes, I am a partner in November Bicycles. This fact probably colors everything I say. I'm clearly not to be trusted.
er.... less dish is always a bad thing.
I guess you're right. "More dish asymmetry" would have been the right way for me to express that.
As long as we don't talk about deep section rims as deep dish. That one drives me nuts.
"er.... less dish is always a bad thing."
Zero dish, ie completely symmetrical is what double sided (flip-flop) track hubs are. And they are seriously sweet to ride. I look in askance at heavily dished wheels because I know just how much worse they are. (Last year I rode 6000 miles on wheels with zero of almost zero dish. Single sided track hubs have probably 2 or 3 mm dish. That's little enough that you cannot feel it and I build those wheels with the same spokes left and right. Tensions are virtually the same. I rode 1300 miles on 7 and 9 speed dish.)
Deep dish belongs in the kitchen!
We've had a couple of Roubaixs come through the shop with DA 9000 11spd. They shipped with Specialized Rival wheels. Aren't those hubs made by DT?Jam Econo
Short answer is I don't know, they probably are since most Specialized hubs seem to use DT internals. Long answer is that converting older hubs to 11 speed is a different animal than new hubs coming 11 speed compatible.
The White Industries H3 can't be made 11 speed compatible, but their T11 hub is 11 speed compatible. New CK R45 hubs will be 11 speed compatible, and the old ones will be convertible, but it will be slightly major surgery. In the case of some hubs it could be as simple as change endcaps and cassette body and re-dish. In others (like R45s from what I've heard), it will mean axle replacement, etc.
DT Swiss R28 "Spline" is one new wheelset made for Dura Ace 11 speed. $msrp rear and $msrp front. $msrp pair.
A new year resolution for me is to learn how to post pics here on the forum. Wheelset = black rim w/white&red decals and a white/black hub. Look more expensive than they cost...
DT Swiss R28 "Spline" wheelset is $225r/$185f....$410pair
70% less than the yuppie carbon wheelset
BTW, Shimano also introduced a Grouppo 70% less than DuraAce.
They call it "sora"
BTW, again, the DA 7900 mechanical looks very very nice:)
The sites I looked at show that DT wheel set for around $750.
Edit - $750 is for R23
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