She can't afford to volunteer at a non-profit since Lance screwed up her families ability to make money...
It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.
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Who's watching this???
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Yeah....what's up with this warrior analogy anyway? Give me a break. Riding your bike all day to pursue some dream because you failed at baseball, football, sucked at real sports, and all this while the rest of us are doing the heavy lifting going to work everyday making a living? Cyclists and surfers have a lot in common; all day pleasure seekers. oh wait...surfing actually requires some real skill. Bad analogy.
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I like the surfing analogy. Problem is, my mom (raised in Hawaii back in the 50's) surfs way better than I do.
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Obviously Polish and Flicka are total tools, SOL is so over the top he could be just taking a round about route to make LA and fanboys look stupid.
I've been watching Ken Burns WW2 documentary series on Netflix, and a segment on B17 pilots was in my head when my friend flicka talked about Lance being brave for his half ass interview with O. Obviously we all know what real bravery is and what a true warrior is. I think it does take a certain amount of bravery to ride a bike 70 mph down hill but no athlete is a warrior as we all know. Just another example of why the cycling news forum got so sick and tired of him that he tossed him out. Whatever at least he doesn't go on profanity laced tirades and call everyone names like you know who used to....HA.
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Re: the warrior term-- I cringe when I hear someone refer to ride/ hike/ anything as being a Bataan death march. A guy that worked for the small town I live in was a Bataan survivor-- the forced march, the starvation, the Japanese transport ship he was hearded on which was torpedoed by the US not knowing it carried POW's, the swim to a nearby island. I'll never demean his life by referencing something minority uncomfortable or difficult as a death march.
As to the Three Stooges here... I'm about to use the ignore button for the first time.
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I emailed cyclingnews and offered the moderators a blown out pair of cycling shorts to to take him back. They countered and I ended up giving them a warm Molson along with a broken chain, too. just email Susan, polish, they're waiting to hear from you. apparently, you've been missed
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Sustanon.
Why post on velonews if you don't like the sport?Baseball isn't a real sport either. It's a skill game, like bowling, golf, shuffleboard. Games you can still manage to play with a big beer gut.
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I did not watch it - did I miss anything?
... and I'll not watch it again tonight.
anyone care to join me?
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bn, I was flying across the country and chose not to invest the $10. Tonight I'll be with friends. I suppose I could record it, but then I'd have to rush out and get a TV (and tivo).
So I;ll join you from afar!
Ben
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If these idiot trolls aren't going to be banned, then just put them on "ignore".
The warrior analogy is a pretense to alter the narrative, so stop making this about them. It's not.
Attention-seeking losers aren't worth getting upset over. Meanwhile, they're sitting behind their keyboards laughing that someone is actually paying attention to them.
Let them die a slow death by ignoring their abject stupidity.
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flicker, you wrote "...If you are talking battles, I don't know. The folks I met, like my Grandfather who was on the ground in WW2 Europe, would not talk, nothing about the war..."
My grandfather told me what he saw in WWI when I was young. (A replacement corporal, trench warfare. Not a hero. Didn't accomplish much, came home wounded but saw a lot.) He never claimed to be a warrior. But he did hold himself to a much higher standard than your hero with regard to others throughout his life. (Including reaching deep into his own pockets to pay debts to customers after the '29 crash. I grew up always wondering why the upstairs rooms of his house were never finished even though my uncles grew up in them.)
I have and do believed a warrior is someone who holds himself impeccably to a higher standard, in warfare and life. Granting someone warrior status who engages in something other than warfare, I can do. But living a double life, screwing partners, repeatedly looking in people's eyes while lying to them. No way!
Looking Eddy Merckx in the eye and lying to him? flicker, the man who can do that is no warrior.
Ben
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I love cycling, Berzin. I don't care for Betsy, although I do respect her. It is heinous that Armstrong tried to ruin her, but I don't care for her whistle blowing. Her knowlege of the tradition of cycling is very, veery limited.
As far as Betsys' contribution to the sport, we shall see. Maybe she did good, but in my opinion, she has brought a long shadow on cycling.
I started watching the sport in the 70s. At this point, I see the blogs of adulation for Betsy, and frankly, I don't see one reason to adulate her.
I do see Lance, and friends have done a lot to build cycling. It is unfortunate that it has ended the way it has.
Furthermore when I see people say things like, why watch a bunch of men excercizing on the big mountains of France, Italia, and Espana, I am beginning to catch their drift.
The witch hunt was successful. Now the casual fans are disgusted with cycling.
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Are you nuts? "she has brought a long shadow on cycling" You must blame rape victims as well.
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You have to forgive Flicker, he's retarded. He can't help it
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"I think I deserve it" from LA tonight saying he deserves to be able to compete again, that this confession should make that possible.
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Sustanon - phuck off someplace else. Do you even ride a bike or you a full on choad?
"There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time."
Malcolm X -
One of my favorite bloggers sums up the Lance/Oprah deal this way:
"Everything I ever said about Lance Armstrong I would like to retract. I watched that interview last night, and the only thing I saw was a complete and total sociopath. Not one bit of remorse. I kept waiting for him to admit that he used to eat body parts with Jeffrey Dahmer. He said the words, but he just didn’t give a fuck. Now I know why the investigators never stopped when it came to him. He was infuriating and crazy."
Exactly!
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One other thing, will used bike prices nosedive as all the 99rs bail on the sport?
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Deserve?!? You've got to be kidding
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"Luke: I am your doper Father!"
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and LA only just told his son, Luke, age 13, who's been defending him on the web, over the holidays, the truth .... wow, way to set up your son (children) for ridicule and embarrassment.
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+ Flicker + Polish... Once again, excellent points! Lance is showing the ultimate warriorship here. He is not publishing a book of his exploits or blowing the whistle for profit. Lance confronting the issues head on like a B17 heading into a cloud of antiaircraft flak to deliver its bombs. He did what was necessary, no doubt like any aircrew would have done, had EPO/HGH/Test. been available back then and if it would have gotten them through the mission they would have taken it no doubt. That's a good analogy. Taking whatever hits they encountered. The pilot of the plane can't be a coward like the captain of a US Cycling team during times of peace. They cancelled the Tour de France during both World Wars to allow the cycling teams to serve their countries and fly missions.
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and LA calls out "the dumb tweet with the yellow jerseys"
perhaps it will stop showing up on this forum... ??
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Huh Sus I lived and CA and woke up at 5am surfed for an hour then went to work. And now I train after work. I guess I am a lazy bum because I used to surf and still ride. Oh ya I skied for 3 hours today it was my day off is that ok?
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his main motivation for doing the interview is "for his kids"
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