Stunned!

  1. ElleSeven

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    My non-cyclist partner, shown this and a couple of other recent threads, writes,

    "… not the other two (?) but the one who's [sic] screen name starts with Spear … meets, arguably, nearly every DSM-IV-TR Axis-II criterion for De Clérambault's. …"

    And little farther on,

    "… [P]lus [sic], that's [referring to the obsessive posting of the photo of a languorous Armstrong lying supine amidst framed fetishist items] your basic smoking gun for borderline paraphilia. …"

    (Dearest, I apologize for the occasional "sic," although I know you'll argue with me about that use of "plus." It had to be done: the grammar moderators vigilantly scour our postings.)

    Posted 3 months ago
  2. Keith RIchards

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    Ha!

    It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.
    Posted 3 months ago
  3. rnddude

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    So as to save searching for us less educationally gifted (Elle, you ALWAYS broaden our intellectual horizons)...

    http://www.rschindler.com/declerambault.htm

    "To be free and to live a free life - that is the most beautiful thing there is."
    Miguel Indurain
    Posted 3 months ago
  4. jacques_anquetil

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    and to add to that unfortunate analysis, DSM-IV-TR Axis-II includes aspects of personality disorders and mental retardation.

    Posted 3 months ago
  5. Jah

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    "handycapped" was a term he used just the other day, I think that is a fitting term for his condition

    Posted 3 months ago
  6. Professeur

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    While I agree with the gist of Diesel's post, I have to disagree with one point he made. I believe that Americans would have been accepting of a verdict issued by a European agency regarding LA's guilt. The problem was,at the time, there wasn't any real evidence, collected and examined according to the existing protocol at the time, that he was guilty of anything.

    We now know that coercion played a large role in the absence of that evidence, but that was not the case at the time.

    And, lacking such evidence, the US media was left with no option but to continue to treat LA as the person he claimed to be. Foreign media may have greater latitude in this regard, and certain lowly regarded publications in the US play loose with the concept of "innocent until proven guilty," but the mainstream serious press was left with no option but to continue to participate in what turned out to be a ruse.

    Also, in defense of the US federal investigation, it's important to note that the federal investigators were not allowed to offer amnesty from federal prosecution to encourage testimony (unlike the USADA, who could offer leniency of a different sort). Who knows what would have come of the investigation if they had the power to do so.

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein
    Posted 3 months ago
  7. rnddude

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    professeur, I concur, but there is still somethig strange about the dropped Fed investigation, especially as the investigators involved were as stunned as everyone else about it, because THEY knew how much data they had collected that was prosecutable. I wonder if we will ever know what they actually had amassed that didn't come out in the USADA decision....

    Posted 3 months ago

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