At some point I lost interest in the entire LA mess and since then haven't paid too much attention other than reading a thread here and there. I'm less interested in the issue itself and more interested in people's take on the issue. When it became public that LA was going to be on O I didn't even give it a thought, I had no interest in watching it. There is a part of me that wants to watch it though. I don't know if its because I was a fan for many years or because I wan't to look at the crash as I drive by. I wonder if its on YouTube yet?
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Why Do I Want to Watch LA on O?!
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Personally, I found the second night more compelling. 1) Because i felt like he outright continued to lie the first night re: no doping since 2005, the UCI involvement, etc; and 2) you finally saw some emotion from him the second night when discussing his kids....and (unfortunately) his desire to compete again. As I have said, I believe this is why he is confessing and you saw that emotion. Everything else seemed scripted.
Just say "NO!!" to WCP!
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Personally, I found the second night more compelling. 1) Because i felt like he outright continued to lie the first night re: no doping since 2005, the UCI involvement, etc;
Sorry, that is not proven.
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There wasn't any part of me that wanted to watch and I'm not bothering to follow it heavily...like watching a train wreck happen slowly over the better part of a decade.
Tai
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The first part was interesting. The 2nd part was a pathetic exercise in touchy-feel. Good thing I had to take the kids to pool and switch it off.
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flicker: //Sorry, that is not proven. //
Nor is the fact that you're a complete nincompoop. Yet the evidence seems to be quite overwhelming.
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I watched it, why not? I don't put down a book I started reading because it is not following a narrative I wanted. I read it to the end.
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Oh c'mon. He paid $100k's to Ferrari's son during his comeback. Ferrari was barred from working with riders but continued to under the cover of his son, who had a Swiss-based company (convenient for money laundering) and the money and countless emails Lance says were for training advice. Which he of course would still need guidance on after winning 7 Tours...it's not like he knew what he was doing by then, right?
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flicker, you wrote "Sorry, that is not proven" in regard to C.K.'s assumption that LA used PEDs in his comeback years.
Sorry, too many of us had to listen to the assertions of no PED use from LA from 1999 to 2005 a whole lotta times like it was fact. Now we KNOW that wasn't proven. C.K.'s assertion could turn out to be not true, BUT it is not a flat out lie.
Oh, and I do believe I recall that LA's blood profile looked unnatural in his comeback. You may be right, it's not proven that LA used PEDs in his comeback, at least yet. You do not get the benefit of that Aussie doctor/doping expert's affirmation that LA stayed clean. Perhaps you forgot LA fired him.
Ben
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Others who know much more than us have pointed out the shortcomings of the Lance and Oprah Show.
I have two employees, women 40 to 50 years old. One of them actually has breast cancer now. When they asked me what I thought of the Show and I recapped what they cycling media has generally agreed on (just a PR stunt, he didn't add anything we don't know etc) both were totally surprised, and I wondered why. After a short conversation with each of them I realized that neither knew anything about the background. They didn't know what the UCI is, or who Ferrari is, or the Big Insurance fraud Lance did, or what the big deal with Betsy was, or even what The Comeback was. All they saw was another Oprah Show where some celebrity made a public confession and got all choked up because of "the kids".
I think that's what it was all about for Lance, finding redemption in the court of public opinion, AKA PR.
I had hoped it would be over by now, but maybe the worst is yet to come. The institution of cycling appears still rotten to the core without much chance of rehabilitation. Exactly what Rabobank said when they quite, what Nissan implied.
The INSTITUTION of cycling is fakt. Bike riding is as great as ever
"You'd look sweet upon the seat, of a bicycle built for two!" -
+ + + Bikesabit "The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it's the sand of the coliseum."
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hey -7tdf Butt End of Lance: take that silly picture out of your signature. i know you don't read but didn't you at least watch the interview? your hero is embarrassed that he tweeted it. please, for his sake, remove it - you're rubbing salt into your own wound.
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I like Lances' tweet foto, sweet. It embodies Lance. His trophy room. It isn't as if mellow johnies are an endangered species.
It is a jersey protraying the ability of men to excercise in the alps and pyranees.If some chose to cheat, it is all about the money, marketing and ego. The TDF is a pro sporting event.
Heck I watched eddie De Bartalo, gambler, mafioso, banned from football, present the NFC Trophy to his sister and brother in law on the 50 yard line at Atlanta today. Sickened me, but maybe Novitzky and Tygart think thats all good! Pro sports, viva the NFL and FIFA. -
Both my pic and SOL's are representative of Lance. A dick, and a doper.
LeMond VO2 max 95, Armstrong 82....doh
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