HERE WE GO....Verbruggen admits to cyclists being warned in advance

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  1. Cosmic Kid

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    I am quoting a whole post from ST for convenience. The process begins....

    What an asshat.

    [quote Jan de Visser][url "http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2698/Sport/article/detail/3381217/2013/01/22/Verbruggen-UCI-waarschuwde-verdachte-renners.dhtml"]http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2698/Sport/article/detail/3381217/2013/01/22/Verbruggen-UCI-waarschuwde-verdachte-renners.dhtml[/url]

    Since Google translate is puking all over it's shoes over the stupid "do you accept cookies" dialog, here's the Cliff's:

    The UCI gave cyclists with suspect blood values advanced warning of upcoming doping controls. Verbruggen's spin is that "education is better than punishment" (am I the only one that finds that both funny and ironic?). Karsten Kroon has admitted he got a call in 2004 warning him, but he spent the afternoon furiously backpedalling, claiming that didn't means he doped. It also mentions Ashenden's incredulity about this whole situation.

    If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny, this situation.[/quote]

    Just say "NO!!" to WCP!

    "Want to get faster? Work harder, eat better, cut the crap. Instead of talking the talk, work the work"
    Posted 4 months ago

  2. Jah

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    Here is the man himself sporting his inner Kim Jong il

    Posted 4 months ago

  3. Jah

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    Here he is channeling his Senator Palpatine, and we all know about his true identity

    Posted 4 months ago

  4. 79pmooney

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    C.K., did you see also the bit about Thom Weisel managing some of Verbruggen's personal assets?

    http://www.vn.nl/Archief/Samenleving/Artikel-Samenleving/Hein-Verbruggen-UCI-For-years-cycling-federation-warned-Armstrong-and-other-riders-with-suspect-values.htm

    Cute deal. Tailwind Sports has a hand on UCI's #1's money and conveniently gets warnings that Tailwind's biggest asset better improve his doping techniques. To look impartial, UCI shared the same concerns with a few other riders. Did anyone notice if any riders who were threats to LA (and Tailwind Sports) got such kind warnings?

    Ben

    Posted 4 months ago

  5. Inferno7

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    I've always speculated that it just wasn't Lance getting the tip-offs. Why the flip would they come out in say this, I guess to get ahead of the story. But can there be anyway this regime continues to have anything to do with cycling?

    LeMond VO2 max 95, Armstrong 82....doh
    Posted 4 months ago

  6. 7tdf-SpearofLance

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    Police warn motorists all the time to slow down and only issue the ticket when the offece is severe. (10 mph over the limit.) Are they trying to help speeders? Or brake the law? The UCI is trying to do the same. Control the behavior of cyclists. If the UCI did knothing, how people here would howl. The headlines would be: "UCI doesn't care about doping".

    Posted 4 months ago

  7. Keith RIchards

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    You with the spelling dude...it is OFFENSE.

    Christ...

    It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.
    Posted 4 months ago

  8. VA-scooter

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    Spelling check 2--BREAK the law not Brake the law.

    Posted 4 months ago

  9. Inferno7

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    " Did anyone notice if any riders who were threats to LA (and Tailwind Sports) got such kind warnings"

    Karsten Kroon not so much

    Posted 4 months ago

  10. Habanero

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    7timedouchefucker-balloflance - I think I speak for many:

    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time."
    Malcolm X
    Posted 4 months ago

  11. ElleSeven

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    He seems to have been hitting the bottle. Would Lance sue Hein if he started "Liverstrong"?

    Posted 4 months ago

  12. bikesabit

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    I seem to recall the UCI "advising" Tyler Hamilton about his blood values sometime before he got busted.....

    Interesting that Shyt Out of Luck would hold up Lester Maddox as an example. The one term Georgia governor, ardent segregationist, pick handle wielding, "misunderstood" racist. Yeh, he looks perfect on the shelf next to the dog vomit from Austin.

    He is a better bike rider than Lance. But who wasn't, you know, when clean?

    "You'd look sweet upon the seat, of a bicycle built for two!"
    Posted 4 months ago

  13. TheShortWhiteGuy

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    @7TDF-SOL

    I am led to believe that you feel that the UCI should have kept hematocrit values at 50 and given warnings starting at 48. Is this correct?

    Life is too short to be small. - Disraeli

    So, why not be petty? - The Short White Guy™
    Posted 4 months ago

  14. Entheo

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    imagined conversation between verbruggen & rider: "so look, the hematocrit's getting a bit too close to 50, time to back down on the vitamin E a bit; we don't need those assholes at WADA breathing down our necks."

    Posted 4 months ago

  15. Keith RIchards

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    Catlin's UCLA lab did the testing for the U.S. Olympic Committee during the nine years that Wade Exum was the organization's doping control director. Exum resigned in June 2000 in protest against what he alleged was the USOC's practice of letting positive drug tests slide. In a subsequent lawsuit claiming that he had been the victim of wrongful termination and racial discrimination, Exum said that 19 U.S. Olympic medalists from 1984 to 2000 had been allowed to compete in the Games despite having failed drug tests. "The welfare of the athlete was not first," says Exum, now a psychiatrist in Nevada. (The USOC denied Exum's allegation about the 19 athletes; Exum's lawsuit was dismissed for lack of evidence.)

    Exum's allegations appear to be supported by minutes of USOC anti-doping committee meetings from 1999 and 2000, recently reviewed by SI. In the minutes, officials discuss how to informally test athletes for marijuana and performance-enhancing drugs—not to sanction them but to help them to avoid testing positive at the Olympics. In 2000, according to the minutes, a debate arose within the committee over whether to use Catlin's testosterone testing method (CIR) before the Sydney Games. Baaron Pittenger, the committee chair, said, "We can handle CIR in the same way we're handling marijuana in terms of notifying the athletes." In reply, Catlin said, "Just don't connect the CIR result to the athlete. Do it as a research experience." (Catlin says he doesn't recall that discussion and adds, "I was always fighting to expose the USOC and all its diddling around with everything.")

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1180944/index.htm

    They were not the only ones.

    Posted 4 months ago

  16. 7tdf-SpearofLance

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    TheShortWhiteGuy I'm not sure where you are going with this but, that about sums it up. It does not do any good to ignore values until they excede 50 does it? Then you have a big problem on your hands.

    Posted 4 months ago

  17. Keith RIchards

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    FYI, before his cancer diagnosis Lance would routinely have his values in the 54-56 range.

    Posted 4 months ago

  18. Entheo

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    catlin was interviewed on MSNBC around the time of the oprah interview. the interviewer asked stock questions but catlin appeared very uneasy. as i recall he was hired by LA during his comeback to publish his levels, but that didn't last for long.

    more to this story too methinks.

    Posted 4 months ago

  19. Keith RIchards

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    Entheo, check out the Sports Illustrated article I have in that post. Catlin is dirty as $hit.

    Posted 4 months ago

  20. Entheo

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    "There the officials found drug-testing documents, medical supplies and performance-enhancing drugs. They also found e-mails and texts that, they say, establish that as recently as 2009 Armstrong's team had links to controversial Italian physician Michele Ferrari, with whom the Texan had said he cut ties in 2004."

    so much for armstrong's little white lie on oprah re: riding clean after his comeback.

    Posted 4 months ago

  21. serotta91

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    This quote sums it up...

    ''If people don't mind the Tour de France and 25km/h, the riders don't have to prepare,'' former International Cycling Union president Hein Verbruggen once said to World Anti-Doping Agency president Dick Pound. ''But if they want it at 42km/h, then, I'm sorry, the riders can't do it without preparation.''

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/cyclings-chemical-creations-no-match-for-alltoohuman-heroism-20130121-2d39w.html#ixzz2IoVKl6xe

    Posted 4 months ago

  22. rnddude

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    "Prepare".....with preparation PED....

    "To be free and to live a free life - that is the most beautiful thing there is."
    Miguel Indurain
    Posted 4 months ago

  23. iamus72

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    Hey Jah, I noticed in that first photo of Kim Jong Verbruggen that his hat logo appears to say "Omerta Together"

    Posted 4 months ago

  24. Polish

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    Another Myth bites the dust...

    "Lance flushed Floyd's blood down the toilet"......MythBusted
    "Lance called Betsy fat"......MythBusted
    "Lance bribed the UCI $500,000".....MythBusted
    "Lance had exclusive rights to Ferarri"....MythBusted

    And now the "Lance won because he was the only one protected by the UCI" is MythBusted too.

    Look, it is in the UCI Job Description to protect and promote Pro Cycling and the Cyclists. Sure, Lance was promoted and protected more than many other cyclists - but he did not have a monopoly there as many have tried to imply. He DID have a monopoly on awesomeness though. I will give you that one.

    Posted 4 months ago

  25. serotta91

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    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/cyclings-chemical-creations-no-match-for-alltoohuman-heroism-20130121-2d39w.html#ixzz2IoVKl6xe

    This article also goes on talking about tennis being clean in reference to the grueling 5 set matches at the Australian Open. Also Cadel is clean. But Armstrong and Floyd were not clean (true) and there rides were fairy tales...
    But tennis is clean...

    Posted 4 months ago

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