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A plea for help
@Elle - we're cool.
Lets face it folks, Lance is the most cyclist ever, Tygart or not. If the inteligencia, the undesirables such as myself appreciate, instead of degrade, we as a group are promoting cycling, just as the superawesome sponsors of Lance, such as Berry Floor , Oakley, etc.
I mean really, get a grip. Tygart goes on sitenta minutos, and bangs 'My Lance.'
After giving Lance the Death Sentence. Is he selling a book?
+ Flicker Thanks for baling me out.
hey Dark Sole of the Knight, with friends like that, who needs enemies?
Keith, how about a contest - you have the IP's right?
Match the sockpuppet to the IP, 20 questions style. This could be entertaining
I seldom come here anymore because of the nonsense spewed by those guys. There is a reason they are here, they have been banned from everywhere else. Their goal is to troll and disrupt any discussion with nonsense.
"Lets face it folks, Lance is the most cyclist ever, Tygart or not. If the inteligencia, the undesirables such as myself appreciate, instead of degrade, we as a group are promoting cycling, just as the superawesome sponsors of Lance, such as Berry Floor , Oakley, etc."
Putting aside the unintelligible "Lance is the most cyclist ever," whatever that means, I would ask flicker this:
Are you saying that ANY cycling news, even bad news, is good for the sport? Are you saying that a corrupt persons islands of goodness totally overide their collective badness? If Bernie Madoff had given all of his ill-gotten gains to charity, should we judge him as altruistic?
In other words, should we grant LA a pass on cheating because he did some good things for the cancer community and was a pretty good pro cyclist?"To be free and to live a free life - that is the most beautiful thing there is."
Boy Wonder is doing us all a favor, he's bringing cycling mainstream. If its in the gutter, so be it:)
Stormy, the only forum I have ever been banned from is the CN Forum.
The Mods over there, very anti-lance btw, became very tired from all the haters whining "Troll Troll". Kind of like you are whining now. Exactly like you are whining now. Maybe a visit to the Golden Corral will make you feel less grumpy?
Grumpy because all the "Fat" myths and "Flush" myths and "Bribe" myths and "Exclusive Ferarri" myths and "Transformed by EPO" myths have all been busted?
And instead of embracing and supporting a person with a narcissism personality disorder - the haters have mocked and taunted and destroyed him. In many circles that would be considered extreme bullying. Are you guys even AWARE of that. Need Awareness right there. Maybe another LAF is in order.
How you guys can look in the mirror or sleep at night is beyond me.
Polish, tell me if I am wrong, but I believe LA still has enough money to be able to afford the shrink to address his personality disorders. That he doesn't says a lot about him.
There's a saying in boxing about leading with the chin. LA has been doing that for a while.
all the mocking of Boy Wonder was earned with a lie told and over for almost 14 years. Folks were litigated, denigrated, bullied and belittled by someone who was a fraud. We are talking a PR and a financial of a huge magnitude - not a lot of sympathy for someone that still can't seem to tell the truth
As far as CyclingNews, Susan said she'll take you back. Just send an email
PS: I sleep fine
polish, you crack me up -- not as much as SOL, but close.
for someone who gives lance a pass on lying, cheating, fraud, racketeering and theft it's ironic (to say the least) that you're accusing us of beating up on little ol' lance edward gunderson because of his personality disorders. i mean, for godsakes man, the guy couldn't even tell the truth during his come-to-jesus meeting with oprah!
"And instead of embracing and supporting a person with a narcissism personality disorder - the haters have mocked and taunted and destroyed him. In many circles that would be considered extreme bullying. Are you guys even AWARE of that. Need Awareness right there. Maybe another LAF is in order."
Wow, where to start....
"embracing and supporting a person with a narcissism personality disorder"....now wouldn't that be like gasoline on the fire?
"In many circles that would be considered extreme bullying"....I thought bullying was done face-to-face, I doubt anyone on this forum has had the recent opportunity to actually get in LA's face and tell him their views, although I wager that a few would love to. Unless of course if he is posting under a pseudonym....hmmmm.
"Maybe another LAF is in order" I can't even wrap my brain around the presumed logic of that one, but then again I AM a stoopid doodie head....
Come on. Lance is being railroaded. Betsy, making accusations against Lance while he makes admissions.
T-garts come uppenance about Lances' blood values, AFTER Lance did what the haterz wanted. Admissions without ommisions=LANCE.
Where does the hate end, where does the jealousy/anger end, where does the bitterness end?
End the hate!! Fight the power that be!
PS: polish do not go back to that site. They just want to taunt and use you as their cyber/heavy punching bag.
Peace out, Flicker
Is it possible that there's category called not 'Hater' but 'Don't-Care-Too-Much-For'? Is it possible that LA was a truly fine athlete, on par with if not necessarily better than some other truly fine athletes, AND AT THE SAME TIME not a particularly profound, selfless, or otherwise exemplary person?
I'm also a bit shaky on this concept that several here — who know who they are — have been circulating to the effect that mass approbation equates to moral purity. In very few instances, and even more rarely in the case of mortal beings, has history validated that logic. Or must we rethink our revisionism about people like Elvis, Savile, Mao, Attila, Madoff, Perón, Trump, and whomever else one would place in such an inventory of dubious yet successful types? In some cases — Madoff and Sir Jimmy for example in the above list — mass attraction turns out to have been the very fulcrum of malice.
This isn't to say that because he was adored Armstrong must be vile; it does suggest that adoration isn't proof of anything other than ... adoration.
Flicker, the ONLY way I would go back to the CN Forum is if they made you Chief Moderater. In addition, they (CN) would need to start a "halfway house" for the poor souls deflicted with Hateritis.
BTW, do you agree that it is now time for the ASO to return the 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 to Lance? Not that they were ever really taken away. But the WADA & USADA have now publicly revealed themselves to be total jerk jokes. And the UCI are joke jerks for rubberstamping the WADA & USADA crap vendetta crusade joke.
Time for ASO to ACT. Time is NOW. Or pretty soon.
So, Pole, SOF, Flick: before you write these posts -- ANY post -- do you have to prep for the persona, or does this stuff just roll from your fingertips w/o prior planning? That is, how much work does it take for you to get into your Polish/SOF "voice?" I couldn't do it. It seems hard. I mean, the misspellings are easy -- just go back and make one ridiculously silly word-hack to keep the drama alive. But the total Polish/... pick is harder to pull.
More important, when you go on other chatlines -- say, adult chat groups -- how hard is it exactly to pull off female personas (persone?)? Not that you'd do that. But I'D like to and I need advice. You know, something that would get me laid, perhaps. And you guys certainly need to get laid, so maybe you have, in fact, tried to ply those sites for bites. Ha, "bites"! Thanks for hte help.
I would put Lance in the Jack Kennedy catagory of hatag.
Since I know many, many dyed in the wool, conservatives, especially, John Birch types, who absolutely hated President Kennedy, while he was president, the verbal hatag ended, with the assasination of our president.
Lance has become a whole new target of hatag though, because even after crusifiction he is still hated. Openly and outwardly. Even by T-gart, the modern Pontius Pilate.
Obviously I meant to write 'hatag', not 'hater'. On the second point, I personally do not accept that Jesus of Nazareth was crucified, or even crusified. I believe that — and this is arguably the literal definition of crucifixion — he was stripped of his seven Tours and permitted to live in peace in his mansion in the Roman province of Judaea while holding onto perhaps half of his hundred million denarii.
Flicker, Tygart is more Caiaphas than Pilate. Pat more a Pilate type.
Caiaphas is a more appropriat analogy fo Tygart.
You are right once again, Chapaue!
For those who might not get the references cited above.....you can make up your mind about the revelance to todays players...
Thanks for proving my point Polish/Flick
Pedalforte raises a good point. Does Polish have a special outfit he puts on that gets him in the mood to write this stuff?
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