Velo Buyer's Guide 2013 good - but

  1. jpouchet

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    Below is an excerpt from my letter to the editor. IMHO the 2013 Buyer's Guide is good. It could be better.

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    Congratulations on another fine edition for 2013. I always find it an interesting issue that I tend to save for quite a while as a handy resource when my friends start asking for recommendations on new bikes. Amazing how many tend to do so mid-season.

    A few items appear to be lacking in the publication. T & T and I don’t mean the nation in the Caribbean. Tandems and Track bikes are sadly missing from your guide. Yes, they may not have the mass-market appeal of general road or mountain bikes. However they do represent some interesting perspectives on the state-of-the-art in cycling technology. Want the ultimate in responsiveness to transfer of power? Track bikes have you covered. How about the ultimate in power-to-weight ratio? Tandems.

    And when it comes to spending money, something your advertisers love in a demographic group, tandem riders are hard to beat. They buy 2X, matching naturally, of everything from cycling kit, accessories, fall/winter/spring clothing, etc. Tandem riders also tend to do more organized touring and cycling vacations. When they do so they spend a lot more money on hotels, food, travel, and memorabilia. Clearly a social-economic group that your advertisers want to impress.

    Track bikes – well track riding / racing is gaining traction across the country. Pardon the pun. With new facilities popping up in the mid-west and east while recently Michigan announced funding to put some life back into the old Pontiac outdoor facility. With the awesome Colorado Springs facility close to your HQ and the Carson LA Velodrome providing year-round photo ops, you have numerous options available for your photo shoots.

    As a demographic you will be hard pressed to find a group of people who spend more time and money on their cycling passion than tandem owners. They may not be out ‘racing’ every weekend but they are riding, touring, taking long and often very expensive cycling vacations, buying expensive vehicle racking systems, garage storing systems, and an awful lot of matching jerseys. Not to mention these bikes range from the performance value leader Cannondale at appx $3,000 to Calfee and Santana models north of $10,000 with all sorts of custom machines, options, belt drive, mountain versions available.

    My wife and I will volunteer our services to help coordinate a group of experienced tandem test riders.

    Again, enjoy the 2013 issue. There is still room for improvement.

    Best regards.

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    JP

    Posted 3 months ago
  2. nightfend

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    Do people even buy tandems much anymore? I never see them advertised or any of the major manufacturers even bothering with them. Definitely a niche market now.

    Track bikes...they should have had those.

    Posted 3 months ago
  3. jpouchet

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    Yes, tandems do sell, generally at specialty shops. Don't know the production volumes but Cannondale, Santana, Co-Motion, Calfee, Seven, and a few other custom builders all make tandems that are above entry level to: what, I don't want to buy a new car!

    They typically are not advertised. You have to know someone who already has one. know where to look, or search craigslist/eBay for used then track down the OEM for a new bike.

    Track bikes rock!

    Posted 3 months ago
  4. C2K_Rider

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    "Do people even buy tandems much anymore?"

    Jeez, they are thick around here and we have a shop in our smallish town (Pleasanton/Livermore, CA) dedicated to tandems. The place is always busy. Maybe it's the high income demographic and great riding in the area, but they are definitely out there!

    I used to ride tandem a lot with my wife - absolutely a great time. Nowdays that old steel Santana is a tank compared to those sold today.

    "The stone age didn't end because the earth ran out of stones, and the oil age won't end because the earth runs out of oil" -- Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute, rmi.org
    Posted 3 months ago
  5. vtguy

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    There are several tandem owners in my sparsely populated corner of Vermont and with so many couples who both ride, it seems like the market has potential. The drawback is that none of the LBSs are big enough to carry an inventory so trying them out requires significant travel.

    Posted 3 months ago
  6. Keith RIchards

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    I was actually tandem shopping just over the weekend.

    Not a lot out there...

    It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.
    Posted 3 months ago
  7. jpouchet

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    KR - check out Tandems East. A bit of a haul from your area but worth the trip north. They put on a lot of organized rides. I've sourced a lot of hard-to-find tandem parts and accessories from them over the years.

    Well look at that - a swap meet in MD this coming weekend!
    http://www.tandemseast.com/events/events.html

    http://www.tandemseast.com/index.html

    Interesting, the URL http://twotandemswest.com/ is a family cycling vacation.

    Posted 3 months ago
  8. Keith RIchards

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    That is not a bad deal for $2k.

    Posted 3 months ago
  9. system7

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    Mt Airy Bikes has a lot of tandems. They'll ship to college park as well:

    http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikeslist.php?x_BIKE_TYPE=tandem&z_BIKE_TYPE=LIKE,'%,%'

    Posted 3 months ago
  10. jpouchet

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    KR, do give the KHS a test ride and if at all possible ride a Cannondale on the same day. The KHS is a bit flexy in the frame but over the last three years they have really put some engineering and thought into building a better, upmarket for them, bike. They are still very well known for their "Costco" special $999 tandems.

    Disc brakes are the hot setup on tandems. Avid mechancial are what most run.

    The Cannondale is about $800 more but a huge steo up in performance. My wife and I have been riding tandems for oh my goodness it will be 20 years this Valentine's Day! Of all the bikes we've ridden / tested, and we try to test a new model tanem every six months or so, the Cannondale has been our favorite ride, performance, value for the money.

    Only complaint my wife has is much like the KHS unless the stoker can get that seat way up in the air all they see is your back. On the Santana and older Trek T200 series, the bikes have a true double triangle setup so the stoker's seat clamp is almost level with the captain's. This gives them a better view down the road.

    Of course handling changes too. As the captain I prefer that weight low in the back on the Cannondale and appears the KHS (I've not ridden that model) as well as several of the Co-motion tandemds. Makes for some excellent turning.

    However the Santana Team Neobium and Ti models, even with doublt triangle and more upright stoker, are awesome handling! Something bout the stiffness of their frames, rear triangle and chainstay geometry along with a killer fork.

    Hope you and the Mrs KR get a chance to do some test riding.

    FYI, my wife and I along with a few other couples are targeting the DC area for a group tandem vacation. Still in planning stages but likely 2014. 2013 is already booked with a Palm Springs outing and our follow the Tour of California week of riding.

    JP

    PS: Tai has some good info on Co-Motion.

    Posted 3 months ago
  11. Spud

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    +1 on the Cannondale. Love ours!

    "Riding is about rhythm and flow. It's the wind in your face and the challange of hammering up a long hill. It's the reward at the top and the thrill of a high-speed descent. Biking lets you come alive both in body and spirit."
    Posted 3 months ago
  12. ChinookPass

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    Jpouchet, sounds like you should write a tandem buyer's guide! Don't think VN could do your justice to your experience.

    Posted 3 months ago
  13. KidWok

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    KR...check Co-motion's website for which size you ride and let me know. I'll see if they have a demo/show bike sitting around that they are willing to let go of for a bit less.

    Tai

    Posted 3 months ago
  14. KidWok

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    KR...check your FB messages...

    Tai

    Posted 3 months ago

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