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flicker

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Entheo,

My Uncle just gave me an old copy of Peloton, with the Cannibal on the cover, my son read it and asked me if Eddy cheated. I told him everybody cheats in Pro Cycling. I told him getting away with PED use is part of the sport, and he said, why not have doping doctors on every team, a PED arms race, we could have the Rabo Chemist, the Katusha chemist, the Astana chemist, the OmegaPharm chemist. 13 years old, our of the mouths of babes. Legalize it.

Yes it is wrong. Everybody does it though. What can I say? Tygart don't know that though. Mr. T--Gart Myopic Smearjob Cabron.

Goatman.

Posted 3 months ago
jacques_anquetil

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Goatman.

what do you mean by "goatman?!"

Posted 3 months ago
Inferno7

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How sad

LeMond VO2 max 95, Armstrong 82....doh

Posted 3 months ago
flicker

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Like Marc Chagall I-7 and I love goats. At least I am, he called me cabron, Wah.

Posted 3 months ago
BroDeal

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This thread is just sad. It's like a conman gets caught and two of the chumps that invested with him cannot come to grips with being bamboozled so they proclaim his innocence, trying to convince people that the guy who stole their money is being railroaded. Good ol' flicker and Polish, still searching for excuses to lessen the moral bankruptcy of what Armstrong did.

Posted 3 months ago
Inferno7

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Apparently Armstrong has tried to settle with the DOJ, he wanted immunity from any criminal charges, and he offered a paltry sum. They said NO and they 10's of millions do dollars apart on the civil side.

Posted 3 months ago
Entheo

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just for giggles i searched on two recent threads that any true cyclist would have posted to (or, at least one of them): "Let's see your bike" and "Your most cherished day on the bike". guess what -- no flicker, no polish. i think polish has posted the infrequent anomaly outside of his SSDD mantra, but i don't recall ever seeing flicker (or the former SOL) ever posting about their personal experiences on a bike.

pretty sure these guys just live vicariously thru their fallen hero, here in this halfway house of a thread. not sure they even OWN a bike, much less a bike shop.

@jacques: flicker called me a punto (pussy), so i called him a cabron, which literally means male goat. however, the more common meaning is the one that i was ascribing to him: asshole-fucker-bitch.

Posted 3 months ago
flicker

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Punto means point, or period in Espanol. I actually had a smelly old goat once Entheo. His name was Henry.

Polish and I can shoulder the hate, because we were and still are Armstrong fans. Not sycophants, toadies or tinfoil hat haberdasheries. True fans of a true champion, no matter what Mrs. Greg says.

We are not bitter angry or jealous of Floyd. Off subject here Entheo, Brodeal, if Floyd were to receive a large cash settlement from his whistleblower lawsuit, would you feel say 10 million would make Sir Grayrod an ethical individual?

Posted 3 months ago
flicker

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Entheo, Hey bro, I would never call anyone a bad word! + I never called usted fat! GRR!

puntoEnglish translation
5 ENTRIES FOUND:
punto (masculine noun)
arranque (masculine noun)
culminante (adjective)
puesta (feminine noun)
vista (Span. feminine noun)

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punto masculine noun
English Translation of PUNTO

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: dot, point
2
: period (in punctuation)
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: item, question
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: spot, place
5
: moment, stage, degree
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: point (in a score)
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: stitch
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en punto : on the dot, sharp
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al punto : at once
10
a punto fijo : exactly, certainly
11
dos punto

Posted 3 months ago
Entheo

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Punto

pretty hard to believe you didn't know this, but okay, you didn't call me fat.

Posted 3 months ago
flicker

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Sorry mate, I read mirriam Webster not the urban dictionary.

Please do not derail a perfectly important internet discussion about NUMBER 1.

Posted 3 months ago
band members

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This discussion would be a lot more livety if SOME of the band members were reinstated. Now it is only Flicker and Polish against the world.

Posted 3 months ago
madvax

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This discussion would be a lot more livety if SOME of the band members were reinstated. Now it is only Flicker and Polish against the world.

Personally, I prefer a discussion that is interesting more than "livety". The problem with Flicker, Polish, and others, is that they do not advance a discussion. I don't mind disagreement, but they continually make the same old generalized arguments for each and "every" LA topic. For example, it's just a witch hunt, anyone who disagrees is a hater, it was a level playing field because everyone did it, etc.

It becomes tiresome when the same group of people continually disrupt the flow of a thread by name calling and taking the discussion back to the same old arguments. Look how this thread has devolved back into the same old garbage. The moderators have been more than tolerant to Flicker and Polish. At least now their BS is limited to just this one thread.

Thank you MIB.

Posted 3 months ago
flicker

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Not only aam I wild about lance but I found a new magazine to read, go Jamie Fox, and Lance you will come back like Django.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/

Posted 2 months ago
flicker

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This is a reality based opinion from Holland. Hater no cycling fan yes.

Dick • 4 days ago
I am suprised about the coments. I am dutch, grown up with cicling. I can tell you stories from 30 years ago. The boys ride there bike to belgium to get amfetaminen.
The stories are always about the rite back home. Two times as fast as the rite to belgium. It is one with cicling to use wath ever you can get, to stay on the bike.
That does not mean everybody does it, but the most do. At least the ones who are winning. If you take the bloodsamples of all the tor winners, and search them with the technieks you goty now? There will be no clean winners, not one.
Thats not crazy because if the take nose drops for a cold, you are doping.

Come on get real and enjoy what the ridders are doing. To get a good preformance. Thats training, sleeping eatting and do everything to get in topshape to start.

Who would say no to a magic posion?

Posted 2 months ago
The Diesel

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Lance Armstrong's defense: USPS knew or should have known about it, and should have sued us before!

"We will say there was enough information (about doping on the USPS team) to put you (the government) on notice, and you should have filed a false claim before,"

Now, I must say, that quote is funny shit!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2013/02/25/lance-armstrong-false-claims-act-defense/1947651/

Posted 2 months ago
Inferno7

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funny sheet mun.

He denied doping to the degree he had members of congress repeating his 500 test bullshit line.

Posted 2 months ago
Berzin

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Flicker, you pathetic douchebag-cheating is cheating, regardless of whomever else may or may not have been taking part.

This absolves Armstrong not one bit in a court of law.

Maybe it hasn't sunk through your thick head as to why Armstrong is being dragged through court that your pathetic rationalizations have no bearing on the US government joining Landis' whistleblower lawsuit.

So sued he will get, and money he will pay. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 lawsuits at the very least, I count coming his way.

It takes some serious lazer-like focus to get sued that much.

Posted 2 months ago
Keith RIchards

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Berzin, chill with the name calling. Easy bro.

It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.

Posted 2 months ago
Polish

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It will be easy to PROVE that USPS knew about rampant doping in Pro Cycling. Knew about it even before they jumped on the Lance Gravy Train. The USPS benefitted to the tune of $100million+ it can be shown.

And for the FEDs to go after Lance now that the Gravy Train has entered the Book Deal phase is pathetic.

And it was not ONLY the USPS that knew. Wait until Frankie and Betsy take the stand. When did THEY first know about rampant doping in Pro Cycling. What is Greg going to answer under oath? 1985? 1989? 1993?

USA Gold medalists from the 1986 Olympic knew about blood doping. USPS knew about it too. USADA was founded 2000ish. What a joke. Maybe those guys did NOT know about doping in Pro Cycling. Maybe they ccan plead ignorance.

USADA pleading IGNORANCE is one thing. The USPS pleading ignorance will be quite another. Unlike the USADA, the USPS was NOT ignorant of doping in Pro Cycling.

Ride the Lance Gravy Train until the gravy dries up. Was Frankie doping while Lance was lying around on his near deathbed? Was Tyler doping while Lance was lying around then too? Those guys are the biggest frauds sorry. Them and the USPS. Frauds and Ignoramuses.

Posted 2 months ago
Orange Crush

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"cheating is cheating, regardless of whomever else may or may not have been taking part."

I remember a very different tune when it came to Contador. Pretty funny.

(and, no, don't interpret it the wrong way)

The wise man said follow me...and he walked behind.

Posted 2 months ago
Polish

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It is not a level playing field when it comes to cheating. Cheating is NOT cheating. It is one thing for a pro athlete to cheat. It is worse for a Federal Employee or quasi-federal employee to cheat. Big Difference.

Higher standards for some. Taking oaths. Violating the Sacredness of the GJ is a MUCH worse cheat than doping for example. Not nearly the same level of cheating. Get a clue some of you.

Posted 2 months ago
flicker

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Sorry Polish, cheating in cycling only began when Greg was dropped by donkeys in the Tour.

As far as cheating/level playing field goes, is if the tortillas are all made in a factory, (as opposed to the handmade tortillas hecho de Mama,) the best factory made tortillas will taste the best, of the factory made tortillas.

Of course Mamas tortillas will be the tastiest, however not everyone can have a tasty tortilla, nor for that matter a nice vaso de Horchata.

Posted 2 months ago
Polish

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Yes flicker, it appears Tyler doping with "White Lunch Bags" at the 1997 TdF while riding for USPS while Lance Lance was hospitalized was NOT cheating or fraud as far as thye Fed case is concerned. USPS funding the Cycling Team from 1996-1998, when doping was most rampant - is NOT part of the "whistle blowage" suit.

Why doesn't the Fed case go back to USPS 1996 1997 1998? We all know the answer to that one. pathetic. pitiful.

Posted 2 months ago
flicker

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I don't know, maybe the Feds like the UCI have their "Protected Riders." I would think the protected riders would be of course Tyler, Floyd, Frankie, George, Levi, CVV, DaveZ, TD, JV, et al, etc. Since I was not watching the Tour,96-98, I do not know the USPS team, then.
Especially Floyd and Tyler with their "Supernice Guy status."

Funny though, how quiet Bobby Julich is, obviously not a hater.

Posted 2 months ago