my doctor says my testosterone level is at the lower end of the normal range for a guy my age. we're trying DHEA for now to see if that helps but she said she might want me to start taking testosterone. she said the upside is that i will feel better. the downside was, besides my bits shrinking, that once i start taking it i'm stuck taking it forever. that sorta raised a flag. how do guys that dope with it for years just stop taking it? if i start taking it, should i get some neuticles?
If you are not hallucinating, you are not trying hard enough
Hope the DHEA works, as I am not sure I would want to take anything forever. Had mine tested in '10 was in the high 700's. Probably due to my hairy back and shoulders....haha just kidding.LeMond VO2 max 95, Armstrong 82....doh
Lowering testosterone levels are a fact of life.....it is part of getting older. Sure, you can supplement it with some Andro gel or whatever, but do you really need it?
"lower end of normal range" means you are in the normal range.I wouldn't sweat it.
Plus, if you do any racing (dunno if you do), you will technically be doping....and good luck getting a TUE, even with a doc's scrip. Stoopid expensive and "low end of normal" isn't enough to qualify.
I've wondered what my T levels are now that I am on the downside of my 40's, but I am still chugging along and mostly still improving my fitness over previous years (at least as it relates to triathlon). Sure, I get tired occasionally (today being a great example), but otherwise it is all part of getting older.Just say "NO!!" to WCP!
"Want to get faster? Work harder, eat better, cut the crap. Instead of talking the talk, work the work"
would watching Michelle Jenneke videos help?
yeah, i'm 47 and supposedly it's normal for it to be dropping. it maybe could also be from stress or a reoccurring infection. and i guess technically if i raced then taking dhea would get me busted although i'm not sure dhea even helps with testosterone.
I'm a pharmacist and have specialized for years in bio-identical hormone replacement therapy as well as custom compounding prescriptions.
To your specific questions, the decline in endogenous production caused by exogenous use of testosterone can be reversed with other medications, returning your endocrine system back to it's former state. That said, the problem I see most in men is that the physicians really don't know what they are doing regarding dose. You are better off finding an endocrinologist who specializes in HRT than going to your family doc or internist. The average man produces between 8 and 10 mg of testosterone per day in his prime, say 19 years old. So a man slathers on Andro-gel at 50mg per day and wonders why things go wrong in 6 months to a year. The doses I see are far too high and I've made a portion of my practice simply fixing these guys up once their endocrine system is completely out of balance.
yup. be careful if you are racing. a regional guy here got popped for test patches in the masters league last summer and is out for 2 years. either failed to, or too cheap to spring for the TUE.
So i was in my prime at 19?
....crap.... it's been down hill for 38 years
i've purchased the book 'testosterone dreams' by hoberman since it appears T is becoming ubiquitous as a panacea for many things male (aging, athletics, sex etc.) and i want to get educated on the subject.
used from $4 on amazon; you might want to become more familiar with the stuff before you commit to it...
entheo: good call. i'll check it out.
You might have a look at Chapter 16 of Andy Pruitt's Complete Medical Guide for Cyclists.
You are in range now but if you do end up on T only use low dose (5m).
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